In this episode of the Valley Run Podcast, Pastor A.J. engages in a profound discussion with Pastor Caleb Widmer, exploring the intricate themes of human nature and theology. They delve into the State of Theology 2025 survey, examining evangelical beliefs about human nature and the concept of being inherently sinful. Through personal anecdotes and theological insights, they discuss the cultural shift towards self-optimization and its impact on understanding the gospel. The conversation also touches on the importance of recognizing our need for a savior, the role of the church in shaping beliefs, and the transformative power of regeneration. Caleb shares a deeply personal story about his son, illustrating the profound impact of faith and renewal. The episode concludes with reflections on parenting, the dangers of idolizing children, and the necessity of community and worship in nurturing faith.