If you’ve ever been like “why is my brain doing this” this episode is for you.
Today I’m talking with author and mental health advocate Brian Sachetta (Get Out of Your Head®) about what anxiety and depression actually feel like from the inside… and what helps when you’re trapped in the all consuming spiral.
We get into the difference between feeling anxious vs. identifying as an anxious person, why “just think positive” can backfire (especially if you overthink), and Brian’s IRA framework for getting unstuck: Interrupt the spiral → Reframe the threat → Anchor back into calm.
We also talk depression as hopelessness + helplessness, how to rebuild agency when you’re at zero, why progress isn’t linear (and what counts as “getting better” even with bad days), and the truth about self help: you’re not looking for a silver bullet, you’re building a toolkit that actually fits you.
If you’ve been stuck in your head, consider this your reminder: you can’t fix your life from inside the spiral.
