Richard is a Colorado native who played football at CU Boulder. Now, he is working as a scholar relations officer, to provide grants and scholarships to people. We discussed our athletic experiences (Rich put me in the hot seat and asked me questions as well), our careers, how I got into creating a podcast, and where we are both at now. Rich’s dog, Sue, joins us as a guest during our conversation. We compare team dynamics and the differences between different team sizes. We share what we both wish we knew before leaving athletics. And anything and everything in between. This was one of the longest episodes I've recorded, and I enjoyed every second of it.