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Description

No guests this time — just Case and Jmike diving into Naomi, both the first comic volume by Brian Michael Bendis, David F. Walker, and Jamal Campbell, and the CW pilot it inspired! We unpack her origins, the themes of identity and legacy, and how this new hero fits into the Superman-adjacent universe.

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Men of Steel Full Episode

Originally aired: November 21, 2025

Edited by Sophia Ricciardi

Scored by Geoff Moonen

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 Outline

️ Introduction and Topic Setup (00:00 - 10:36)
  • Discussion opens with commentary on a break-in scenario as a humorous analogy.
  • Hosts introduce the podcast episode focused on Naomi, a comic series and its TV adaptation.
Comic Book Deep Dive, Part 1 (10:38 - 20:37)
  • Case shares his late discovery of Naomi via Superman comics.
  • Discussion of typical Brian Michael Bendis storytelling traits and Naomi's origin story.
Comic Book Deep Dive, Part 2 (20:37 - 29:58)
  • Discussion of the comic's minimal action narrative; Naomi only fights once near the end.
  • Critique of the pacing and suggestions for narrative recap.
TV Show Critique, Part 1 (29:58 - 39:35)
  • Hosts express strong disappointment with the Naomi TV series.
  • Exploration of key changes from comic to show, including character depth.
TV Show Critique, Part 2 (39:36 - 49:32)
  • Further criticism of the TV show's deviation from comic lore.
  • Exploration of Naomi's 'Mary Sue' characterization and visual production issues.
TV Show Critique, Part 3 and General Reflection (49:32 - 58:53)
  • Frustration with the show's pacing and poor adaptation of comic's style.
  • Suggestions for animated series instead of live action.
Comparative Analysis and Storytelling Challenges (58:53 - 01:08:51)
  • Reflection on comic's pacing translating into TV episodic structure.
  • Challenges of stretching limited content to a full season.
Final Thoughts and Wrap-Up (01:08:52 - 01:19:00)
  • Overall enjoyment of the comic despite flaws and disapproval of the TV show.
  • Hope for future projects that better capture the comic's qualities.
Closing Remarks and Promotional Segment (01:19:03 - 01:27:09)
  • Hosts encourage listeners to read the comic and promote Patreon.
  • Plug for Case's new podcast project Trade School.