Cheyne and Luis have got a doozey of an episode in this one, they have Dr. Mike Israetel. Dr. Mike has a PhD in Sport Physiology, Chief Content Officer of Renaissance Periodization, Professor of Exercise and Sports Science at Lehman College. In other words, he really knows his shit! With all this academic and clinical backing Dr. Mike is a huge proponent of "science can offer more". Dr. Mike is a strong believer in working on authority and credibility to make sure that his clients get their desired results. Dr. Mike is also not afraid to tell you the truth from the beginning as to how long this may take, but he will provide you with a plan. It's human nature to want to get results quick, but Dr. Mike explains why periodization can ensure over the long term. Cheyne and Luis had a great time with Dr. Mike and it's reflected in the interview. Give it a listen and tell all your friends about it.