Elaine and I are definitely the Unexperts when it comes to marriage.  So, why should anyone listen to us?  You shouldn’t.  We don’t know anything, which is why we are the Unexperts.  Though I guess I should say that we have had the privilege of knowing thousands of couples over the last 11 years at Munger, so it’s possible that we've learned a thing or two about successful marriages….  Plus we love you, and that motivates us to do whatever we can to bless you and make our church families strong.