Student Affairs professionals around the world are breaking new ground, and there's never been a better time to be part of the conversation. On a recent episode of "Student Affairs Voices from the Field," host Dr. Jill Creighton welcomed four visionary leaders who are at the forefront of reshaping how we think about student affairs globally. This dynamic episode shines a spotlight on NASPA's inaugural global division publication, "Creating a Global Community," which seeks to bridge knowledge and practice across borders.
What makes this episode truly inspiring is hearing directly from the publication's curators: Omneya Badr, Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof, Dr. Brett Perozzi, and Dr. Heidi October. Their collective experiences span continents—bringing diverse insights from South Africa, the Middle East, the United States, and beyond. Listeners learn that student affairs is not just an "add-on" in higher education; it is essential and transformative, especially when professionals share knowledge and lift each other up.
A recurring theme on the podcast is the importance of amplifying voices that are not always heard. Omneya Badr speaks passionately about the need to provide a platform for first-time authors and institutions outside the Western mainstream, emphasizing that "what you're doing is worthy of sharing." The team's vision for the publication is not only to showcase best practices but also to encourage practitioners everywhere, whatever their background or training, to contribute and see themselves as part of a truly global profession.
Another powerful message centers on adapting student affairs to the unique contexts and needs of different regions. From showcasing non-English contributions to supporting professionals who may not have formal degrees in the field, the publication (and this episode) celebrate innovation and inclusivity.
For those curious about what the future holds, the episode sets an optimistic tone. The intent isn't just knowledge sharing; it's catalytic—fostering networks, co-authorship, and a sense of belonging for professionals worldwide. Whether you're an experienced leader or just starting out, you'll find practical advice, encouragement, and an invitation to participate in the next wave of global student affairs scholarship.
If you want to be inspired by stories of resilience, collaboration, and the boundless potential of higher education, this is an episode you shouldn't miss. Tune in and discover how you, too, can be a part of this exciting global conversation.
TRANSCRIPT
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:00:01]:
Welcome to Student Affairs Voices from the Field, the podcast where we share your student affairs stories from fresh perspectives to seasoned experts. Brought to you by NASPA, we curate free and accessible professional development for higher education professionals wherever you happen to be. This is Season 14, continuing our conversation on the value of student affairs. I'm Dr. Jill Creighton, she/her/hers, your SA Voices from the Field host. Today on SA Voices, I'm pleased to bring you 4 incredible guests who are here to talk about NASPA's newest publication that focuses on global student services all throughout the world. The 4 guests today were in charge of curating, editing, and ultimately producing NASPA's very first publication focusing on student affairs practices from around the globe. 2 of the guests we'll have on today you've met before, and 2 are brand new to the pod.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:00:50]:
Our first returning guest is Omneya Bader. Omneya is an educator and student affairs professional who gained a culturally diverse higher education experience studying, teaching, and working in Bahrain, Qatar, Egypt, the UK, and the United States. She currently serves on NASPA's Board of Directors and is the Director of NASPA's Global Division, past Director of the MENASA Region, and in the 2021 and 2022 years she served as the MENASA Conference Chair. She held teaching and academic advising positions at the New York Institute of Technology Bahrain, Bahrain Institute of Business and Finance, Qatar University, and Trinity University. She's a frequent presenter at NASPA conferences, and her research interests are culturally based academic advising, supporting first-generation students, first-year experience, and cross-cultural communication. She holds an MBA from the University of Bath in the United Kingdom, a certificate of entrepreneurial and small business operations from the Academy of Arts in California, and a Bachelor of Arts in Management from the American University in Cairo, Egypt. She recently acquired a Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion in the Workplace certificate from the University of South Florida. As an educator, Amnea enjoys giving back to the profession and is interested in creating the professional development opportunity space for global student affairs professionals and encouraging research and sharing knowledge amongst counterparts around the world.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:02:03]:
For our next guest, we're pleased to welcome back to the pod Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof, who currently serves as the Vice President for Student Affairs at Ferris State University, where she joined in 2014. She has over 30 years of experience in student affairs and is currently responsible for the leadership, direction, supervision, and assessment of the Division of Student Affairs, which is inclusive of many, many student support services and departments. She's active in NODA, which is the National Orientation Directors Association and has held many positions in NASPA where she's been presenting and publishing on a myriad of topics throughout her career. At Ferris State, she's also the co-chair of the Ferris United Way campaign, serves on the President's Council, is the chair of the FSU Reentry Committee, and is a member of the Strategic Planning and Resource Committee, and serves as one of the advisors for the FSU Student Government Association. She earned her bachelor's degree in communication from Ohio University, a master in college student personnel from Bowling Green State, and a Doctor of Philosophy in Educational Leadership from Clemson. Additionally, she's received numerous awards, two of the most notable being the NODA Circle of Excellence in 2019, and in 2015, she was one of our very own NASPA Foundation's Pillar of the Profession. She spent her career working with college students and their families and can think of no better way to support student success than creating diverse and inclusive environments where students can explore their values and debate knowledge in a close community setting.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:03:22]:
Joining us on the pod for the very first time is Dr. Heidi October, who hails from South Africa. Dr. October currently serves serves on Stellenbosch University's Student Affairs Senior Management Team as Deputy Director, Center for Student Life and Learning, and Head, Frederik van Zyl Stabbert Leadership Institute. She's responsible for the strategic leadership and research for student leadership programs for academic transcript recognition. She has extensive higher education experience spanning over 25 years and stakeholder relations benchmarking at more than 30 international universities. She's been awarded with the Vice-Chancellor's Awards for Excellence in Achievement. She has been awarded with Vice-Chancellor's Awards for Excellent Achievement as Student Leader and Leader staff member, an academic achievement award from the University of Pretoria, where she obtained her PhD in leadership studies, and has been awarded honorary membership in the International Golden Key Society for her contribution to leadership.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:04:12]:
She has guest lectured at the Association of Commonwealth Universities Summer School, MCI Business School Innsbruck, Austria, and KU Leuven, Belgium, and regularly presents scholarly papers at international academic conferences in Europe, the United States, and Africa. She's the 2025 recipient of the prestigious Susan Comives Award for inspiring research in student leadership. Our fourth Guest today, also joining us on the pod for the very first time, is Dr. Brett Perazzi. Brett is the CEO of the Global Student Affairs Consulting Group, or GSA Consulting. He most recently served as Vice President for Student Affairs and Enrollment Management at Salt Lake Community College, which is 50,000 students across 8 campuses in Salt Lake City, Utah, USA. He previously served as Vice President for Student Affairs at Weber State University and in senior administrative roles at Arizona State and Colorado State University. He holds a PhD from Indiana University and a master's degree from the University of Arizona, both in higher education administration, with a bachelor's degree in education from the State University of New York.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:05:08]:
Brett has served as a faculty member in higher education graduate programs at 6 universities and co-founded the Higher Education Leadership Program at Weber State University. Brett has authored more than 50 publications, including 2 books on international student affairs and services. He's been an active volunteer with NASPA for more than 2 decades, helping explore and expand global impact and support for student affairs and services. Brett is a founding member of the International Association Association of Student Affairs and Services, or IASIS, and has been invited to assist and support Student Affairs and Services colleagues worldwide. He and his partner Terry enjoy traveling, eating, and creating delicious food, and experiencing all four seasons in their mountain location with their Siberian Husky Akira. I'm so excited to bring in members of our Global Division Board today, specifically to talk about the brand new and inaugural publication for the Global Division, which we're gonna talk all about today. So we've got a couple of guests on. Our first is Amneha.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:06:01]:
Amneha, hello.
Omneya Badr [00:06:02]:
Hello.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:06:03]:
And where are you today in the world?
Omneya Badr [00:06:05]:
I'm joining from Washington, D.C.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:06:07]:
Excellent. Our second guest is Janine.
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:06:10]:
Good morning. I'm joining you from snowy Michigan.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:06:12]:
And for our listeners who have been with the show a while, you might recognize Amneha and Janine from their past episodes, but it's been a couple of years since we've had them on the pod. And I'm also very glad to introduce you to a brand new voice, Brett.
Dr. Brett Perozzi [00:06:23]:
Hi, good morning, good afternoon, good evening, folks. Good to be here. I am calling in from Salt Lake City, Utah, in the Mountain West in the US.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:06:33]:
And the publication that we've got today is called Creating a Global Community. And this publication is really designed by practitioners for practitioners by looking at student affairs practices that are beyond the borders of the US, because we're all over the world. And it's a really exciting time to be having this conversation. Before we dig into the publication though, we always like to start with a question. How did you get to your current seat, both in your day-to-day job, as well as if in your NASPA board position or NASPA leadership position?
Omneya Badr [00:07:02]:
So I've been in higher education for a long time, and part of it was teaching, part of it student affairs. And I've been working in Egypt, in Qatar, in Bahrain, and then now in DC. So it's a matter of always student affairs, but changing institutions and changing countries. In terms of my volunteer work, I have been volunteering with NASPA for a long, long time, and it started with being part of the Middle East, North Africa, South Asia chapter of NASPA. Started as a supporting the PD, time and efforts and so on that led me to being the conference chair and then the director of the region. And then later on to this position, the global division director. Which gives me a really a great opportunity to work with great colleagues. I have a position on the board of NASPA Board of Governance, so it gives me a chance to hear what all my colleagues are saying and to work on a publication like this one.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:08:07]:
And Amna is our current and outgoing chair of the global division. We've just thrived so much under her leadership. We are so excited to welcome Pilar, but also we're gonna miss you.
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:08:17]:
And so in my journey, this is Janine. I have been in higher education my whole life. I'll share a story later later if we have time about how I got here, but I came to Ferris State, where in Michigan in the United States, in 2014, and I've been serving as a Vice President for Student Affairs. Prior to that, I worked at Florida State, and I worked at Clemson University and the University of Findlay. So for the most part on the eastern side of the United States. And NASPA, I was introduced as a young professional through a mentor, and it's really become a professional home for me for decades. So I've had the opportunity to serve in roles such as this in the global division and started out working with exchanges that we were doing and then have done a variety of different things. So kind of my world opened up and so to speak from some different roles.
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:09:04]:
Also had the opportunity to serve as a regional director, which included a seat on the national board. So that was an exciting year. And then other regional roles, including a regional conference host and the secretary treasurer, and then currently now also serve on the Scott Academy board. So I really have a great time learning from others and learning what's happening in the organization. So look forward to today. As well.
Dr. Brett Perozzi [00:09:25]:
That's great. Nice to be reminded of folks' pasts. But yeah, I've worked in higher ed for many years, various administrative posts. I've always called myself a higher education administrator who happens to work in student affairs. It's been a great career. I've spent the last 8 years as a vice president at 2 different institutions. With NASPA, I actually started helping with NASPA's global outreach, I guess, in 2002. We used to do master's and doctoral student exchange programs, and that's kind That's kind of how I got started, and I helped do the administrative exchanges later, and I was actually the first chair of the International Advisory Board, which eventually now is the Global Division and is appropriately placed in the organization with the kind of leadership that we need from other countries.
Dr. Brett Perozzi [00:10:12]:
Anyway, things have gone pretty well, and it's really been a great experience to be able to work with so many great people like some of the folks who are here today.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:10:19]:
And we are so thrilled that Heidi is able to join us. And Heidi, where are you joining us from today?
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:10:25]:
Hi everyone. So I'm Heidi October. I am based at Stellenbosch University in South Africa. I am the head of the Leadership Institute, the Frederik van Zyl Slabbert Leadership Institute, and do a role as Deputy Director for the Centre for Student Life and Learning.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:10:38]:
Wonderful. And how did you get to your seat on the NASPA Global Division?
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:10:42]:
I think I have just always had an interest in the internationalization of student affairs. Started to present more at international conferences and presented also at NASPA. So I also became the institutional coordinator for our University to review organizations where our student affairs practitioners would be able to really be able to have a lot of opportunities for staff development. And I then recommended that we join NASPA. I was then approached to join the NASPA global board, and I immediately jumped in and said, I'd like to be part of the scholarship team.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:11:18]:
And that leads us, I think, wonderfully to the question I'd love for you all to take a shot at, which is how did we decide this was the time for the global division to introduce a publication? It's been a working board, it's been a board bringing the global perspective to NASPA, but it hasn't necessarily done research practice scholarship in the same way before. So why this? Why now?
Omneya Badr [00:11:39]:
So thank you, Jill, for this question. It's really, let me tell a, like a bit of a story. About 4 or 5 years ago, I met Brett for the first time at the NASPA conference, and I think it was the first time we meet, and I was telling him how around the world, all the 3 countries that I worked in, affairs is not seen as a profession. There are no degrees, no certificates, no proper formal education, and therefore people don't see it as a career. There is no research, or limited— let's not say no, but limited research and so on. There is research out there, but it's difficult to find. So I'm having this conversation with Brett. I'm thinking, do you think there is a space where we could provide, try to compile these resources, try to provide the way for people to quickly have access to these resources.
Omneya Badr [00:12:31]:
Some of them are not in English, but still. And he said, definitely, I think that would be wonderful for make it easier for people and also encourage others. Fast forward to the time I find myself being the global division director-elect, and then I'm thinking, okay, let's talk Brett. So I'm talking with Brett, I'm thinking, how about a publication? NASPA already has a bunch of publications that are very different. Then, so I'm having this conversation and he's saying, definitely, yeah. And then let's form a team. Brett becomes the team lead, and then we have wonderful Janine, wonderful Heidi who are joining us. And the objective was at the beginning, and it still is, how can we encourage people from around the world who have never written an article, who have never shared what they are doing, who maybe are not thinking what they're doing is worthy of sharing.
Omneya Badr [00:13:24]:
How can we support first-time authors? And at the same time, we're not looking at it as a lens of we know better, but student affairs professionals around the world could benefit from someone who has developed or applied a solution, a program in South Africa, in Egypt, in Australia, here and there. So this was the, the starting point and we're almost there.
Dr. Brett Perozzi [00:13:49]:
The only thing I might add to that is in these conversations that we were having, I'm sitting there thinking, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Because I had done some research a long time ago, like 2013, I think, that indicated most student affairs practitioners around the world were doing professional development by reading. And so the more information that we could get out in publication format, the better we are to help support the profession. So I'm super excited it's coming together.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:14:18]:
So Brett and Amna, you two were kind of the germinators of this idea, and then it evolves into having a team of four who are kind of creating this vision. So how did Janine and Heidi come on board?
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:14:29]:
So for me, it was a phone call. It was an email saying, hey, do you want to join us? And you never say no to Brett and Amna. I mean, you're like, yes, I'm there. So it was an automatic yes. And the other part too that was really exciting is I recall in my NASPA experience, I never had thought I would be outside of the United States. I thought, you know, my world was growing up in Pennsylvania, and, and so education just expanded my opportunities. And then NASPA expanded my world, and I was able to do things globally that I had not been able to do before. And so I felt like it was a great opportunity to be able to share some of that experience and some of the awareness that I gained and thought, gosh, if other people can do that too, wouldn't that be amazing? So it was an honor to be asked, and I'm thrilled to be a part of it.
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:15:11]:
I was thinking about this question in my first conversation with Omnia and Janelle when they reached out. Out to me to join the advisory board. They've asked where would I like to participate, and I immediately mentioned that I have done my research and I have noticed that there is a gap in terms of global perspectives, specifically around the work that we do in student affairs. Many of the journals are still Western-based. We have a couple of journals that are now popping up in other parts of the world, but I could also see from my own perspective and the South African lens that there are a lot of student affairs practitioners doing amazing work, but we need to share these best practices and not only in South Africa. So immediately I said yes, and I also became somehow the main driver and stalker for colleagues here in South Africa and really pushing them to submit. And so I'm really, really happy to be part of this very rewarding experience.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:16:08]:
So what we've ended up now with is a monograph. And so it's not a research-based journal, it's a practice-based journal that talks about all sorts of different things, and it's structured in a few different parts. The editorial team has done an incredible job of selecting a diversity of authors. Correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I think there's almost 50, a little over 50 authors.
Omneya Badr [00:16:27]:
Yeah, almost.
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:16:27]:
Yes.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:16:28]:
Many of whom they're publishing for the very first time, or some folks who are like me, who I just don't have time to do mega research as a full-time practitioner, but there's a lot to talk about in terms of practice. But it's organized in a couple of different ways. Student Learning Development, Social Justice and Inclusion, Technology Advising and Supporting, and Personal and Ethical Foundations, Values and Philosophy. Governance is a section. So I want to know, how did you go about the application selection process, deciding out of the many, many submissions you received how you were going to organize and how you were going to choose what fit into this inaugural monograph that, because it's never been seen before, you really got to structure from scratch?
Dr. Brett Perozzi [00:17:11]:
All of us were involved in some way. In trying to provide some sort of structure for the monograph. And it wasn't long before we settled on the NASPA ACPA competencies as a guide. And Heidi, I know, has used those extensively and helped us get organized around those. We didn't necessarily use those to screen manuscripts that came in. We fit them in afterwards and we actually asked authors, where do you think yours best fits? And they fell out naturally. We didn't have to really force any of them. So we have some pretty clean sections for 1 and 2, and then even The third encompasses two, and then the fourth does encompass a number of different competencies.
Dr. Brett Perozzi [00:17:51]:
It was kind of interesting to see how they fell out, and it gives you a little bit of an idea of some of the trends also globally, given the subjects that were submitted.
Omneya Badr [00:18:01]:
If you allow me, before receiving the abstracts, we had no idea what's going to happen. This is like an inaugural project. We didn't know. So we were just ready for different scenarios, but I think it's worthy to mention the effort that has been made to reach out to people around the world and to tell them about this. Because often if someone who has never written before, who has no formal student affairs education, when they see this in an email, that is an inaugural publication, when they see a LinkedIn post, they just scroll. They don't see that that's for them. So a big effort has been made. No, please.
Omneya Badr [00:18:43]:
Personally, I have connections in the Manassa area and Janine has connections. Brett has connections, Heidi as well., but it's just the effort to let people know this publication, we wanna hear from you. And then once we started receiving the abstracts and then later on the manuscripts, we were so pleasantly surprised by the variety. And then comes the editing team where we support people. We don't wanna say no to anyone, but we want to ask you to do this, do that so it comes in the best format possible.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:19:15]:
There's a number of authors from outside of the US, which I think is an incredible feat for this publication, the first of its kind that now NASPA has ever seen. So just scrolling through the author list, I see Brazil, I see South Africa, I see the United Kingdom, I see India, I see Egypt, I see Qatar. The list is vast and broad. There's also a fair number of American-based authors in the publication, but I know that we're also hoping that this will be something that is shared widely, not only within the US NASPA members, but that we can get it out to our colleagues around the world. I would love to know a little bit more about the writing process in terms of how authors submitted things, how they went through editing cycles with you. And I ask this because, A, I know we're A, we're hoping to do this again, and so we might have future authors listening, but also B, I think writing is super intimidating for a lot of people that have never done it before, especially who maybe haven't done that terminal degree yet. And so what are those kind of advice pieces for people who want to take their first attempt at writing and what you all are looking for?
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:20:11]:
So I'll start and just come up with really big broad strokes. So the intent, I remember the conversations that we had were really around how do we provide a format for people to share the things that they're doing on their campuses without all the intimidation of doing something that is really prescribed. So creating an environment where people can say, hey, I've got this program or this resource or this policy, and this is how we've implemented it, and it's worked well, and these are the resources or things that you might want to take. It might be scalable. It might be something that can transcend boundaries. And that was how we started in a really global sense. And then it was a lot of, okay, well, we think this will work, and then if it didn't work, we pivoted and did something else. And so there were a lot of changes along the way, and we were actually just talking before we started this about finding time if we're all going to be at NASPA to just sit for a minute and process through what should we do differently next time.
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:21:03]:
But it's been when you have really good colleagues who are willing to help others, you saw that throughout this. You saw people reaching out to others to write together. You saw people who had not written before saying, hey, can you help me with this? So it was really a very exciting process.
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:21:17]:
Jill, I think there's one thing that we should also not forget that many of the authors, English is not their first language. And so I think the writing process for all of us was also a learning curve in the way that the writing style differed from one person to the next. And I remember even internally, there were a couple of emails coming from my side to say, colleagues, is it a geographical approach the way that we even write student affairs and services? And I remember there was a lot of explanations back and forth, but I'm using that particular example because it depends on where you are based. Even a simple phrase like 'sess' could be written in different ways. And so it was really important for us right from the get-go that when we do give feedback to colleagues, that they don't feel overwhelmed by the task at hand. I remember I had two sessions with colleagues here in South Africa. First one was just explaining the, the basic introduction of what it is that we want to achieve. And then secondly, I followed up with some of them individually who really felt quite intimidated by the writing process because they I've never submitted a formal research paper.
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:22:27]:
And I said, tell your story or write your story as if you're telling or sharing with a friend what it is that you do. And so the moment they started to make that connection, it's almost like if the doors of writing started to open and people felt more free to share and less intimidated and threatened by the feedback. So it was a learning curve, not only for us as the editors, but also amongst the colleagues themselves, because we have colleagues colleagues, entry-level in student affairs and more established scholars in the field. And it was lovely to see some of the partnerships of colleagues just wanting to help one another in doing that. So, a last point I want to make is that there was also a decision we had to make around, is a particular style of writing, does it suit this publication? And so, in the end, we realized that some of it might be a better fit for a storytelling type of writing, which might not fit for this particular round of the publication, but it opened up opportunities for us just to explore what could be next or what could be different for, for, for the next edition.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:23:37]:
We are gonna launch this publication at Annual Conference. So we're recording this in February, so we're just a couple of weeks away from Annual Conference. You'll be able to check that out as a NASPA member. So for our NASPA members who are going to read this publication, many of whom will be US-based professionals, what do you want them to take away from the publication or what might be a great mindset approach to reading it?
Omneya Badr [00:23:58]:
Personally, I would say have an open mind. Try to understand the context and why this program or practice is being adopted. And with an open mind, you will learn a lot. For me, reading this publication, it's not that I'm going to adopt this on my campus. It's not necessarily that, but it's like Jeanine was saying, just open the world. You understand more about why this is happening and why is this working or not working, because we are not going to try to have the universe in international student affairs practices. So I would say have an open mind, even try to reach, reach out to authors. Finally, if you are at the NASPA conference, come and see us at the global division reception, and we'll be celebrating the publication and the authors that will be there.
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:24:46]:
I think the other thing I would add is like everything that you read and do, there's so much that proliferates our, our world right now in terms of data. And information. But the thing that I felt when I read through these is there's so many nuggets of information and things that can transfer culture. But there's also the interesting part of the cultural relevance of what the person is writing about. So it's really interesting to define what might be relevant or something that's occurring in one country is occurring in a different country, but it's a different way. They're looking at it from a different side. They're implementing it in a different way. So it was really exciting to think about how all things happen.
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:25:26]:
Happen in higher education, but depending on the country you're in, there's just a slightly different tilt. And it was just nice to be able to get the definitions and the understanding and then see all those nuggets in how we do our work.
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:25:37]:
Well, my two cents would be that I hope that when they do read this, that they really feel inspired to participate in the next edition and to never underestimate the value that everyone can really contribute to the scholarship of student affairs, wherever you are, whatever your role is, whatever seniority level you have in Student Affairs, it is important to share our work globally.
Dr. Brett Perozzi [00:26:02]:
I'm excited that there are so many newer authors, Jill, as you mentioned, there are folks who have published before who are part of this, but there are a ton of new folks and it's going to be great to meet them. A number of them we know are coming to the annual conference, which will be exciting. I've seen it before. I work with a group of folks I've researched with before, and one of our specialties is how do you help people get published? And as Amnia was about the thrill when people see their name on the finished product. It's really exciting on a personal level. And at the macro level, I like looking at the trends and things too, so that people can see, oh, this is what people are writing about, or hey, we do this too. Maybe we could write about how we do this next time around. Some exciting things.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:26:42]:
What's something that you would like future readers to know about the publication that I haven't asked you about yet?
Dr. Brett Perozzi [00:26:47]:
I think to tag on my prior comment, it's accessible. Again, as Amnia mentioned, we tried to accept every submission we could, but that meant some very heavy editing. And if they could rise to the occasion of the heavy editing, it made it into the publication. So it was kind of like anybody can make it in as long as you're willing to do the work.
Omneya Badr [00:27:07]:
Yeah, that's gonna be probably encouraging for the second edition. People who we have reached out to and couldn't make it, now they'll be a bit jealous and we wanna be in the second edition, but also it's accessible to people to read. So we are, we are hoping that this will go around the world, maybe will have its viral moment so that people can have access to it. And I'm really thinking that we talk a lot to our students about the importance of being a global citizen, and we deal with international students, study abroad programs, and all of that. But us as professionals, we need to also make an effort to be kind of a global citizen. I think this, I'm humbly saying, this publication is a resource resource, like my colleagues have been saying, the resource to know about what's happening around the world and not dismissing like, oh, that country or that institution, nothing important could help me. But that couldn't be farther from the truth.
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:28:04]:
I would say two things, and it's about referencing. So while this is an augural publication, it was important for us to make sure that there are standards in terms of referencing an API, APA referencing So it is important from a theoretical perspective that we do refer to theory, but there's also scope for more conceptual frameworks and the introduction of conceptual frameworks that is contextual. And so there's a big gap, I think, for all of us within the student affairs practice area that we can really explore more opportunities to collaborate and to do comparison studies. So I think this really lays the foundation for future research and co-authoring partnerships for future publications. And it would be wonderful in the next edition to see two authors from different regions working together and participating in unpacking a new conceptual framework. So I'm really excited about that foresight for the scholarship section.
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:29:06]:
And I'll just say one piece is, just as Heidi mentioned, it is a really good publication that looks at theory. It does— theory is throughout it, but it really focuses on the practice. It focuses on what people are doing on their campuses. So it is just a really good publication to think through how you might do this in a different country, how you might define this term in a different country so that as you're sitting in your seat, you can look across the world and say, how is this happening in other places? And the other piece is I think it also gives people the opportunity to learn from a different lens. So it really is a way to understand a different viewpoint just in a brief article.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:29:44]:
And once again, the monograph is called Creating a Global Community, and it'll be launched at NASPA's annual 2026 conference in Kansas City. I'm going to move us into our theme questions for the season, and these These are the questions that we've been asking every single guest we have on. Knowing that there's a lot of you, we're just going to make sure that we try to get through all of them as timely as we can, but also there's a lot to say on these. So just trying to balance all of that, but we've got the first question, which is, when you think about the value of student affairs, what comes to mind first and why?
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:30:13]:
So I'll share this. I appreciate the opportunity to think about the question for a minute. So thank you for giving them to us before, but our role in student success is what comes to mind the very first thing in student Affairs. Everything that we do supports the success of students, their access to education, the development of their engagement, their community, their belonging. And as I like to share with our parents at orientation and have done throughout my career is the student's journey in their adulthood internship. I mean, they're really learning how to practice and to skill build and to hone the things that they're going to be doing throughout their life. And we get to be a part of that. We get to walk alongside of them when they invite us and help them to think through what's what's the next step? So it's exciting.
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:30:52]:
It's a wonderful field and it's a wonderful way in our world to make the world a better place.
Dr. Brett Perozzi [00:30:57]:
It really is a super altruistic and exciting way to look at our work. I might have to check myself a little bit because I have a slightly different perspective on it, just because recently I was turned away from a higher education journal because we submitted a piece on student affairs and services. And the statement was, sorry, we only publish things that are higher education related. I thought, whoa. So yeah, this was, it was an international journal in higher education. And as Heidi and some others mentioned, we're just not understood globally. And so my colleagues and I got a kind of a good chuckle out of that, but a lot of wasted time too. But anyway, I just wanted to share that quick anecdote.
Omneya Badr [00:31:39]:
Not surprised. I come from a world and worked in countries where certainly student affairs is seen as like a side thing that could easily be removed because students are there to go to classes. And success is about the grades and the certificate. So I, I understand that, but it does hurt because I see student affairs professionals as educators and we are part of the journey. And I value some institutions who have introduced like a second transcript for the student where they can list the different skills and activities and so on. That is part of showing the value to the student and also to our own institution. So the value of student affairs, we have to promote it within our own institution before promoting it to students and parents. And I would say we have to be self-innovative because our student population and demographics change, and not all institutions have 18, 19-year-olds.
Omneya Badr [00:32:36]:
So we have to be adaptive. And the last thing is never to forget proof, data. That is where the institution is going to understand that there is a difference being made, and then you're— we hopefully, we're going to get the credit that we deserves.
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:32:50]:
Well, I'd like to add from a perspective of the transformative student experience. So at Stellenbosch University, we refer to student affairs being at the heart of the transformative student experience. And I'd like to add that it's also part of the transformative staff experience. And so if you take student life in general, it really, it's an extension of the academic project. And so we've worked really, really hard intentionally to partner with the academic project exactly for that reason, Omnia, to have our work on the academic transcript and to show that there's academic rigor in the work that we do from student leadership work and student leadership programs where I am particularly involved in, that there is real academic rigor in the work that we do. When we speak about student success, there is student development principles, there's theory behind the approaches in student affairs. Across, whether it is health and wellbeing, it is the recreational sport aspect of it, where we talk about the sense of belonging, inclusion, et cetera, and taking it all the way back into how do we then equip our students to leave as graduates with certain attributes and then to transcend into the world of work where we can see the real value of having an enriched student life. And student affairs is really at the heart of that.
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:34:13]:
And so I actually had a conversation within this week with Some professors in academia visited us from other countries, and I had to do a presentation on the importance, the significance of having an enriched student life. And the end of my presentation, I said, well, we all know that there wouldn't be universities if there were no students. There wouldn't be universities without the academic project. So it's really a case of the universities in itself would become irrelevant if there's no service to society and the relevance of what we are gaining collectively in terms of knowledge, skills, competencies and where do we fit the student affairs practitioners? And it's basically horizontal. So it's, it's a lot of cross-cutting factors within the ecosystem of higher education that you cannot deny the value of it unless you really think in terms of either/or. And I'm hoping that in the year 2026, we have moved way beyond the either/or approach in higher ed.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:35:15]:
Our second question, can you share a specific story or moment when you saw the value of student affairs come to life?
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:35:21]:
So as a first-generation student in higher education, I now know my experience was fairly typical, but I didn't know the path I was supposed to take or what I was supposed to do. And so I was very fortunate to have a lot of people guide me. So I was an RA and I was an orientation leader. I was on the yearbook staff and student organizations and a sorority, involved in student alumni groups and all of that. But I didn't understand the construct behind all those opportunities, all of that engagement. So prior to my senior year, I always thought I wanted to be a journalist. I'm dating myself. I was going to be Barbara Walters.
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:35:51]:
That was my, my goal. But after an internship, I realized that that's not what I wanted to do anymore. So I went back to school for my senior year and I talked to all of those people in my life that I now know are student affairs people, my hall director, my director of residence life, the student activities director, the dean of students, my advisor. And I was introduced to this field called student affairs. And the awareness I gained, I would liken to the first day of spring after a long winter. It was filled with opportunities that had always been there. They were always there under the snow, but I was seeing them differently. Intentionally for the first time.
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:36:25]:
And so as I pursued my master's and studied in higher education, I had the opportunity to study with these amazing people like Dr. Sattelmeyer and Dr. Strange and Dr. Renz and Dr. Coombs at Bowling Green State in Ohio. And I learned how we could intentionally orchestrate moments for students to learn and to grow and to discern their values and to practice the art of communications and to make mistakes with cushion, but also explore their careers and who wanted to be and who they wanted to be. So I was hooked. And since that time, I am honored to have been invited in so many students' journeys and to help them where they needed to celebrate with excitement, to craft their opportunities, to wade through difficult situations, to listen, and to cheer them on as they negotiated their adulthood internship.
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:37:08]:
So student affairs just kind of blossomed, and it's— I can't think of anything else to do. I couldn't think of any other career.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:37:14]:
I really like this framing of the university environment as internship for adulthood. I've never heard that phrasing before. I'm going to, I'm going to hang on to that one.
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:37:22]:
Please do.
Omneya Badr [00:37:23]:
Fun. So I'm gonna share a story about a student while I was working as academic advisor. One of my probation students who was like semester after semester, like there's no progress in terms of grades or engagement on campus. And then one day comes to my office and says, did you check my midterm grades? And then I'm looking like, oh my God, how did you, do you have these Bs and B pluses? Like what's happening? And then he adds, and I'm running for the student government as well. Long conversation with the student. I told him like, you need to sit down. I I need to know what's happening. So I don't have time to tell the whole story, but basically what he said, all of a sudden, all these conversations I had with you as my academic advisor, and I had with the counselor, and I had with the career advisor, all of a sudden, it just like a puzzle that fitted.
Omneya Badr [00:38:14]:
And it just dawned to me like, I have to do something. It's my career. I have to take these steps. So I'm glad, this is what he said, I'm glad that you never never stopped calling and emailing and sending these tips and remind me of the resources. So to me, this is a story of graduated with a 3-point-something GPA and doing very well. So this is something that I always remember that we don't give up, we just go on and remind students and talk to students because story like that could happen again and again.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:38:45]:
Heidi, how about you? Can you share a specific story or moment when you saw the value of student affairs come to life?
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:38:50]:
At the moment, it's my 25th year in higher education, and I was very lucky to have worked in different areas within higher education. So prior to joining student affairs, I worked for about a couple of years as the manager for alumni relations, and I traveled extensively to the top 10 countries where most of our alumni resided outside of South Africa. And at all of these events, I came back and it was very clear to me that our alumni alumni have done degrees at different universities, so not necessarily at the same university, but what really makes them loyal towards Stellenbosch University is the reminiscing way that they were talking about the student life back when they were students. And they could tell stories about staff members who assisted them in residence life from a commuter student perspective, how staff members in student affairs made them aware of all of the opportunities to really immerse themselves in the student life or colleagues who assisted them through mental health challenges. And so when I reflected on the question, it made me realize that if it was not for those colleagues who really walked the extra mile to support the students during times when they felt incredibly vulnerable in achieving their goals, they probably never would've participated in alumni events or coming back for homecoming reunions because there would've been no sense of belonging that was created for them and a smooth transitioning from student life into graduates and then into the alumni, and then again completing the circle by paying it forward and also then encouraging their own children to come back to the same university because of that rich student life experience that they have experienced. So I can't think of a better story to share than those particular examples, and I am just incredibly grateful that I can also be a small play a little part in creating that just feeling of belonging for our students.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:40:52]:
Our third question in our theme is, what do you think that student affairs needs to be doing to be better understood or better seen in today's educational environment?
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:41:03]:
So I think we need to remember to boldly tell our story, to illuminate our student experiences, to provide opportunities for them to share their experiences in their own ways. And then help people remember that it's about the students. This is all about the students. And we have vast amounts of data that we can use to illustrate all those awesome positive effects around engagement, belonging, community, and just the awareness and all of those things. If we do that, if we keep telling that story, we're gonna show nothing but student success and nothing except the ways that student affairs help to augment that.
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:41:38]:
From my side, I would say get rid of limiting beliefs, get rid get rid of the feeling that we are less than in an academic space. The moment we are more intentional with the work that we do and showing the relevance of that with clear data, just to add on to what Janine said, it becomes undeniable that the work adds value. So less anecdotal examples, being clear-cut with our case studies that we share. And also another piece of advice that I'd like to share is that I have been sharing with colleagues in own space, go to the academic conferences, submit your abstracts, go and present your work at specifically the disciplines, but the academic type of scholarship conferences. And the other part also is join or create partnerships with our learning and teaching colleagues in Academic Affairs. There are many overlaps in the work that we do from a student success perspective. And I think the more collaborative we become and the less competitive for retention or trying to get more space in the playfield, field, the more relevant we become because then you are making yourself undeniably relevant to the needs of not only the organization or the institution, but also to the student and broader university community.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:42:58]:
And Amna, how about you? What do you think that student affairs needs to be doing to be better seen and better understood in today's educational environment?
Omneya Badr [00:43:05]:
I think we need to partner with academic affairs and raise awareness among ourselves within the institution about the value of the work we are doing. I have worked institutions, and I'm currently working in an institution where we have non-traditional students, and those have different needs. So we need to be innovating and moving with trends. So the value of student affairs is going to be seen with proof that we provide, with raising awareness among other departments of the value of what we're doing, partnering with academic affairs. So we are in the classroom and outside the classroom, and we show that what we're doing makes a difference as as well as changing our tactics. Engagement doesn't have to mean the same thing. An older student needs different things. A student who is studying online needs different things.
Omneya Badr [00:43:55]:
A student parent, a student who has a full-time job, and so on. So we have to be innovative and change. And cooperating with also the industry is always has been, but it's much more important now.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:44:07]:
It's time to take a quick break and toss it over to producer Chris to learn what's going on in the Naspa World.
Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:44:13]:
Thanks, Jill. So excited to be back in the Naspa World, and there's a ton of things happening in Naspa. Really excited that the Naspa Annual Conference is coming up March 7th through the 11th in Kansas City, Missouri. Soon we're going to be coming together in Kansas City, and I hope you're going to be planning to join us and the thousands of other professionals traveling to Kansas City from all over the world. The event is going to be an amazing event, and there are going to be a ton of ways for you to be able to engage with others. And if you are a first-time attendee, make sure that you check out a few of the different first-time attendee sessions. There is a first-time attendee orientation webinar that is available. There are some sessions right at the conference that you can go through, and with the new online app You can search for programs that align with being a first-time attendee or other programs that you just have an interest in.
Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:45:12]:
I do encourage you to explore the conference app that is available now. And through that app, you can set up your own schedule and allow for you to be able to find all the type of programming that you want to attend, whether you are a first-time attendee or a person that has been attending for many, many years. I've said this before, but Jill and I will be at the conference. And as always, we are going to be asking some questions of people at the conference. And I want to be able to offer all of you the opportunity to be able to answer these questions so that your voice can be a part of some upcoming episodes. The 3 questions are as follows. If you could rebuild the student affairs from scratch, what's one change that you would make to impact student success? The second question, how can student affairs use data and tech to better serve the profession? And third, what does a successful flexible work environment look like in student affairs today and in the future? There's a couple of ways that you can send us your recording. The easiest way is to record yourself answering those questions right on your phone, get an audio file, and email us the audio file.
Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:46:33]:
At savoices@naspb.org. You could also record a file and upload it and email us the link. That's another easy way to do it. But all in all, we would love to include your voice as a part of this, even if you can't attend the annual conference. If you are attending the annual conference, please look for Jill or I because we would love to capture your voice. And if we ask you, don't find it weird. We're going to have our recorders and we're going to be asking people to be able to answer questions for us. Another event that's happening on May 8th, 2026 is the NASPA 2026— is the 2026 NASPA Civic Discourse Virtual Summit.
Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:47:12]:
As colleges and universities work to support student learning and engagement amid an evolving landscape around free speech, academic freedom, and political expression, the need for thoughtful, principled approaches to civic discourse has never been greater. The 2026 Civic Discourse on Campus Virtual Summit. The 2026 Civic Discourse on Campus Virtual Summit brings together higher education leaders, student affairs professionals, student affairs professionals, and dialogue practitioners to explore the evolving landscape and share evidence-informed strategies for cultivating healthy campus climates. Inside of this virtual summit, there are 9 different areas that will be covered, and I highly encourage you to check out all of the different areas and consider joining for this inaugural summit. You can find out more on the NASPA online learning community at learning.naspa.org. Another event that is coming up is the NASPA Sexual Violence Prevention and Response Virtual Summit. The 2026 NASPA Sexual Violence Prevention and Response Summit will provide you with the opportunity to be able to, to gain knowledge, tools, and strategies needed to drive meaningful Change: Meaningful Campuswide Change in Sexual Violence Prevention and Response. This summit features expert-led sessions and evidence-based practices.
Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:48:38]:
The summit will equip you to advance holistic approaches that center prevention, elevate survivor support, strengthen equitable services for respondents, and embed equity, safety, and wellbeing into the fabric of campus life. This summit is happening in May 2026, and you can find out more also on the NASPA Online Learning Community website at learning.naspa.org. What if the very thing that makes student affairs professionals so effective—their empathy, their care, their deep commitment to students—is also what's putting them at risk? In a brand new featured research article entitled "Caring for the Caregivers: Identifying and Addressing Compassion Fatigue in Student Affairs" by Alexa Wesley Chamberlain. The article takes a hard look at compassion fatigue in student affairs, often described as the cost of caring. In a time when professionals are repeatedly supporting students through trauma, crisis, and uncertainty, the emotional toll is real. Anxiety, exhaustion, isolation, and burnout aren't just individual struggles; they're systemic challenges. They're systemic challenges, and the article makes a compelling case that self-care aware alone isn't enough. What makes this piece especially important is that it moves beyond awareness to action.
Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:49:58]:
Drawing on research and national data, it outlines 5 concrete organizational-level strategies institutions can implement, from strengthening mentorship and structured debriefing to expanding mental health access for staff to being more transparent about emotional labor in recruitment. It also highlights how belonging and feeling valued matter even more than pay when it comes to retention. If you care about staff wellbeing, student success, leadership culture, or retention in higher education, this is a must-read. It challenges us to rethink what a true culture of care looks like, not just for students, but for the professionals who serve them every day. You can find this article on the NASPA website in the NASPA blog. Every week we're going to be sharing some amazing things that are happening within the association. So we are going to be able to to try and keep you up to date on everything that's happening and allow for you to be able to get involved in different ways because the association is as strong as its members. And for all of us, we have to find our place within the association, whether it be getting involved with the knowledge community, giving back within one of the, the centers or the divisions of the association.
Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:51:15]:
And as As you're doing that, it's important to be able to identify for yourself, where do you fit? Where do you want to give back? Each week, we're hoping that we will share some things that might encourage you, might allow for you to be able to get some ideas that will provide you with an opportunity to be able to say, hey, I see myself in that knowledge community. I see myself doing something like that. Or encourage encourage you in other ways that allow for you to be able to think beyond what's available right now, to offer other things to the association, to bring your gifts, your talents to the association and to all of the members within the association. Because through doing that, all of us are stronger and the association is better. Tune in again next week as we find out more about what is happening in NASPA.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:52:09]:
Chris, thank you so much as always for giving us another great informative episode of NASPA World. We always appreciate you keeping us informed on what's going on in and around NASPA. And now we have reached our lightning round where we have 7 questions for you to answer in about 90 seconds. Now, because Amnea and Janine have been here before, they have a different set of lightning round questions than Brett and Heidi. So we're going to start with Brett and Heidi. So I'm going to ask you question 1, Brett, you're going to answer, then Heidi, you're going to answer, and then we'll go to question 2, etc. Are Ready to go? Okay. Yes.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:52:39]:
All right. Question 1, if you were a conference keynote speaker, what would your entrance music be?
Dr. Brett Perozzi [00:52:44]:
Happy.
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:52:44]:
You know the song, I'm not singing it. My colleagues and my students would say I Will Survive, Gloria Gaynor.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:52:52]:
Number 2, when you were 5 years old, what did you want to be when you grew up?
Dr. Brett Perozzi [00:52:55]:
Wow. I've thought about that and I actually don't know. I've thought about what did I want to be when I grew up and I didn't know until I got way past 5 years old.
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:53:05]:
Doctor.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:53:05]:
That was my ultimate goal.
Dr. Brett Perozzi [00:53:07]:
Number 3, who's your most influential professional mentor? George Kuh was my advisor in my PhD program, and he is a super impressive, knowledgeable person who has helped me and mentored me throughout my career.
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:53:20]:
I would have to give credit to my PhD supervisor, who is also a director of a leadership institute at the University of Pretoria, Professor Derek de Jong.
Dr. Brett Perozzi [00:53:28]:
Number 4, your essential student affairs read. The book that I just started reading is amazing, The Caring at university that I can't even—
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:53:37]:
so let me just leave it at that. Without a doubt, Susan Comey, there's John Dugan and Al, all of them around the social change model.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:53:45]:
I thrive on their work and I applied a lot.
Dr. Brett Perozzi [00:53:48]:
Number 5, the best TV show you've been binging lately? Old episodes of The West Wing. I love it.
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:53:54]:
To reference an Afrikaans one in South Africa called Skimmer Grounder.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:53:59]:
Number 6, the podcast you spent the most hours listening to the last year?
Dr. Brett Perozzi [00:54:02]:
It's called Bigger Pockets. It's a real estate podcast with all manner of information about different types of real estate.
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:54:10]:
I have to say the AVZ is Unplugged on Spotify with a lot of interviews with newly appointed vice chancellors in South Africa.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:54:20]:
Thank you so much, Brett and Heidi. You have survived our lightning round. It's now time to bring back Amneha and Janine for their lightning round questions. We have a different set of questions for second time guests. So here we go. Question number 1: the last time you were here, you got to talk about your entrance music, and I want to ask you, do you want to keep your original entrance music song, or if you could change it, what would it be?
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:54:42]:
So to be honest, I don't remember what I said last time, so I don't know if I want to keep it. But I was thinking about that when they answered it, and I said, gosh, nowadays I'm not sure what it is, but I still think I'd want to do something dramatic like Over the Rainbow or something like that. Was just like all about dreams and wishes and Nope. I'll trust myself.
Omneya Badr [00:54:59]:
I don't remember as well, but I would say yes, keep it.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:55:03]:
I didn't go back and listen. I'll do that. Number 2, what was your undergraduate degree in and do you use it in your work now?
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:55:09]:
So my undergraduate degree was communication and I use it every day, every single day.
Omneya Badr [00:55:14]:
My undergrad was in business administration. That was called back then, moved to being called management, and I certainly use it every day, managing up, managing down, Everything.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:55:26]:
Number 3, your guilty pleasure TV show binge.
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:55:28]:
I have a couple, but the favorite one right now is an older episode set of series about a family called The Middle.
Omneya Badr [00:55:36]:
It just is dysfunctionally humorous. I recently watched Abbott Elementary and I find it very nice.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:55:43]:
Number 4, if someone ever visits your city, what's the one place they have to eat?
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:55:47]:
So in Big Rapids, it's a small town in Michigan. There are several fun restaurants, but the one I would suggest is a little place called Crankers, which is this brew pub. That has a lot of different food, but if you love breakfast, it is the place to go.
Omneya Badr [00:56:02]:
So there is a place by the waterfront. I'm forgetting the name, but a very nice place for brunch, Georgetown Waterfront. It's hard to miss.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:56:10]:
That's where you need to go. Number 5, what's your favorite work-related podcast?
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:56:14]:
I have to admit, I don't have a favorite one. I listen to a lot of them, but I've kind of still been in the groupings of Audibles, like finding books and spending a little more time delving into topics. So I don't really have a favorite one.
Omneya Badr [00:56:26]:
I just have lots that I listen to? Not because it's you, Jill, but I do listen to your podcast all the time, as well as Adventures in Academic Advising.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:56:35]:
That one I like very much. It's NASA's podcast, but I appreciate the privilege of hosting. Number 6, your favorite not work-related podcast.
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:56:42]:
And I don't have a favorite one, but I tend to look at just of things, topics that I don't normally do within a day. So gardening or something about the stock market or something that's gonna give me some knowledge or something that I don't have to think about in my daily work?
Omneya Badr [00:56:55]:
Yeah, I don't have a favorite one. It's more like would be music and try to listen to music from back home.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:57:03]:
And finally, number 7, any shoutouts you'd like to give, personal or professional?
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:57:06]:
There's so many. You know, it's funny because I just celebrated a birthday, so, you know, and you always get these great wishes from people. And as I wrote to my colleagues and said, thank you so much, I really just want to say to all of the people who helped me get to the seat I'm in, thank you, because I am just so honored to have had all that help and that guidance. And I could give you hundreds of names, but I will do that personally as I continue to see them just to say thanks.
Omneya Badr [00:57:29]:
I would like to thank the group of wonderful people on the Global Division Board and specifically the smaller team on the Publication Board because we are all volunteers. And to put all that effort to have this, it's really a dream come true for me. So I think everyone on the board very much.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:57:51]:
It's been such a joy to have all 4 of you on the podcast today. I'm sure people will want to connect with you about the publication or Global Division after this. How can people find you?
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:58:04]:
So the best way to connect with me would be email, and so that would be using my name. So it's Januar, J-E-A-N-I-A-R, D-R-O-O-F at Ferris.
Omneya Badr [00:58:18]:
The easiest way to find me is on LinkedIn, exactly like my name, O-M-N-E-Y-A-B-A-D-R, uh, and I check it every day.
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:58:29]:
Definitely LinkedIn, Heidi October, H-E-I-D-I-O-C-T-O-B-E-R, or my email address, heidiOctober@sun.ac.za.
Dr. Brett Perozzi [00:58:39]:
One of the best ways to reach me is through my profile on LinkedIn. My last name is sometimes hard. Brett, first name. And I'm also at perozzi_brett@gmail.com.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:58:52]:
I just learned I've been saying your name wrong for years.
Dr. Brett Perozzi [00:58:56]:
Sorry. No, it's totally fine. I wish I had gone by Perozzi for years, but it's too late.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:59:02]:
I'll correct that. I'm so sorry, Brett. I've been literally introducing you as Brett Perozzi for like— It's fine.
Dr. Brett Perozzi [00:59:07]:
5 years.
Omneya Badr [00:59:08]:
Yeah, it's okay.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:59:09]:
Thank you so very much for sharing your voice with us today. Thank you. Thank you.
Omneya Badr [00:59:13]:
Thank you for having us.
Dr. Jeanine Ward-Roof [00:59:14]:
Thank you for having us. Agreed.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:59:21]:
Thank you. This has been an episode of SA Voices from the Field, brought to you by NASPA. This show is made possible because of you, the listeners. We continue to be so grateful that you choose to spend your time with us. If you'd like to reach the show, you can email us at savoices@naspa.org or or find me on LinkedIn by searching for Dr. Jill L. Creighton. We welcome your feedback and your topic and guest suggestions always.
Dr. Jill Creighton [00:59:43]:
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Dr. Jill Creighton [01:00:10]:
Catch you next time.
