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South Africa's minister of education openly admitted that the country's schools are in a state of crisis. She says if 25% of students she will have sleepless nights. Statistics say some 213,000 children failed their end of school examination for the academic year ending last month, out of a total of nearly 800,000. Furthermore According to Stellenbosch University's Professor Servaas van der Berg says out of the 1.2 million seven-year-olds who enrolled in Grade 1 in 2002; slightly less than half went on to pass their school-leaving exam, the matric, 11 years later. Now in the recent past there has been a lot of challenges where about 17 000 learners had not been place in schools for the beginning of the academic year.

To help us unpack and discuss this further we are joined on the line by:

1. Mungwena Maluleke SADTU Secretary General

2. Prof Karin Brodie Wits School of Education Head of School