It took them eight episodes, but Si and Neil finally tackle AI. No future predictions (well, almost), no hot takes, just two engineering managers sharing what they're actually doing with these tools, what's surprised them, and what still makes them nervous.
They cover using LLMs as thinking partners, the difference between AI that writes code and AI that helps you engineer better, agentic tools and what happens when you give them real access, and why good engineering practices might matter more now, not less. Oh, and they do make some predictions at the end. They'll probably be wrong. That's kind of the point.
Timestamped to April 2026. This will be outdated by the time you listen to it.
CHAPTERS
USEFUL LINKS
Dave Farley - Modern Software Engineering (Continuous Delivery): https://www.youtube.com/c/ContinuousDelivery
Microsoft Copilot: https://copilot.microsoft.com
Cursor (AI code editor): https://www.cursor.com
GitHub Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot
Claude (Anthropic): https://claude.ai
OpenClaw (agentic AI tool): https://openclau.ai
Notion AI: https://www.notion.com/product/ai
CONNECT WITH US
Si Jobling - https://www.linkedin.com/in/sijobling/
Neil Younger - https://www.linkedin.com/in/neil-younger/
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CREDITS
Produced by Unstyled Studios.
Artwork by Si.
Edited in Descript.
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