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Hosts: Ez (he/him) and Bette (she/they)

This week Bette (she/they) earbashes Ez (he/him) about The Vine Review, also known as the Independent Review Advice Report - Advice and evidence base regarding policy options for the use of puberty suppression (Stage 1) and gender affirming (Stage 2) hormones for children and adolescents with gender dysphoria in Queensland's public hospital system (try saying that with a mouthful of pickles/feminems). Digging deep into the Review itself and responding to criticisms and interpretations from the community, Bette attempts to make sense of this conflicting mess of internal contradictions and "nuggets of nonsense". Overall, it's not all bad, and rumours of a Cass 2.0 appear to have been exaggerated, but it sure could be better.

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Produced and recorded by Ez and Bette at 4zzz in Fortitude Valley, Meanjin/Brisbane Australia on Turrabul and Jaggera Country and audio and cover image edited by Tobi for podcast distribution for Creative Broadcasters Limited.