THE CONVERSATION is remembered as one of the greatest films of all time, and it is. There’s so much to say about it, we welcomed Seth Zarate (https://twitter.com/snzarate) back to help us sift through our thoughts, hands on the dials, focusing on the juiciest nuggets from Francis Ford Coppola’s masterpiece. Gene Hackman’s Harry Caul is a man defined by his ignorance, believing he can observe and report his way through life, even if those observations and reports sometimes have a body count. In this episode, we break down how THE CONVERSATION uses a tense thriller plot setup to tell a much more incisive story about leaving your mark on the world without ever meaning to – or leaving with some marks of your own. We also talk about Harry’s fraying mental state, his obsession with jazz, and his Catholic upbringing… but you know what? You don’t really care what we talk about. You just want a nice, fat recording. Listen in on this discussion you weren’t there for and had no input on but, as witness to it, have a responsibility to interpret and incorporate into your life from this point forward! Links: Buy tickets to “AGNÈS VARDA: DIEU DU CINÉMA” (May 2022 at the Trylon): https://www.trylon.org/films/category/agnes-varda-dieu-du-cinema/ - Buy tickets to “ISHIRÔ HONDA’S GODZILLA” (May 2022 at the Trylon): https://www.trylon.org/films/category/ishiro-hondas-godzilla/ - Buy tickets to “NIC CAGE, NATIONAL TREASURE” (June - Aug 2022 at the Trylon): https://www.trylon.org/films/category/national-treasure/ Follow us on Twitter at https://twitter.com/trylovepodcast and email us at trylovepodcast@gmail.com to get in touch! Buy tickets and support the Trylon at https://www.trylon.org/. Theme: "Raindrops" by Huma-Huma/"No Smoking" PSA by John Waters. Closing song: “Main Theme” by David Shire from the THE CONVERSATION soundtrack. Timestamps 0:00 - Episode 171: THE CONVERSATION (1974) with Seth Zarate 2:34 - The Patented Aaron Grossman Summary 6:08 - Seth’s thoughts as a ‘70s movie detractor 8:05 - Harry Caul’s dispassionate contradiction 21:58 - The workshop scene and Harry Caul’s god complex 39:36 - Harry Caul’s obsession with jazz