Paul Charles, NLPAA, CIPD, Director of Organisational Talent Development at GBS, which is part of GEDU, speaks to Ann Marie about the need for values driving leadership, talent development, sport and people development. Paul discusses how the corporate sector can remain competitive whilst upholding values and ethics and that this is a credible position to hold in a business environment. Paul is an expert in leadership development and has worked extensively with England and Middlesex County Rugby, is an advocate for women’s rugby, and has been a recipient of the Coach of the Year award in 2019. This podcast is a ‘must listen’ to anyone who is curious about how we uphold values in a corporate world that is keen to get-ahead and deliver results as well as in the sporting world where winning at all costs doesn’t mean we lose our values!