Jose Ramos Horta is considered one of Asia's greatest statesmen - he's helped his country East Timor win independence, he's won the Nobel Peace Prize, he's been a prime minister and a president, and he's survived an assassination attempt. In a very personal interview, he describes grappling with the everyday business of an ordinary life while making history.
Image: Jose Ramos Horta and Jo Fidgen in the Outlook studio
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