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As we continue our discussion of Postmodernism, we are joined by Cody Deese for today's episode. Cody is Pastor of Vinings Lake Church in Mableton, GA. A few months ago he was kind enough to invite me into his group for a 4 Sunday series on Spiral Dynamics and the Narrative which is posted on our website. He and his wife Katie have become close friends of ours and it's always inspiring to hear from Cody.

This episode provides actual experiences from Cody as he has encouraged the growth of his tribe from Blue to Orange to Green and Cody has seen the resultant reactions from his church as well as pastors in the community.

I hope you will find this encouraging to you.