Ezra Klein, founder of Vox.com, is now a New York Times columnist and
podcaster. He wants to fix the broken system that is Congress, yet he finds himself
operating from inside another broken system: mass media.
Ezra talks with Art of Power host Aarti Shahani about how he’s trying to promote
structural analysis — as opposed to character-driven stories — in politics. Ezra and
Aarti revisit his days as a poor student — and the moment when he nearly got
cancelled for a tweet. Ezra also talks about how podcasting — not Twitter — gives
him a chance to really listen to the other side (and not just literally). The author
of Why We’re Polarized and host of the podcast The Ezra Klein Show says he wants to
find and build more open spaces in journalism.
Ezra also says he’s come to learn his most basic assumption about how to win hearts
and minds was all wrong.