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The Extinction Rebellion podcast discusses the future with Christiana Figueres, founder of the Global Optimism group and was head of the UN climate change convention when the Paris agreement was achieved in 2015; George Monbiot, the writer known for his environmental and political activism and Dr Jem Bendell, Professor of Sustainability Leadership at the University of Cumbria. This episode was first released in June 2019 and produced by Jessica Townsend & Bill Leuty for Extinction Rebellion, www.extinctionrebellion.uk, distributed by The Real Agenda Network, podcasts for political change: www.realagenda.org