Rob and Steve catch up at the Browne Street Cafe in Avondale Auckland (check it out, super good - https://www.brownestreet.co.nz) to celebrate the finish of our lockdown and we talk about the double edged sword of this new normal, the imposed technocratic world and its pros and cons...
Also fans of Reality Hub might like a new podcast from a friend of Robs called Yeah Yeah Yeah Nah What, which you can find on Spotify, search for it, its cool!
