Tawny and Lisa talk with Carl Erik Fisher, an addiction physician, bioethicist, person in recovery, and author of The Urge: Our History of Addiction. Carl recently wrote a powerful essay, The Price We Pay Betting on Sports, for The New York Times. They talk about sports betting, how it’s changed with 24/7 online availability and cultural normalization, as well as the associated risks and ways to address them.
Music Minute features audiobooks, EPIC: The Musical, and The Odyssey
Check out Carl’s Substack newsletter, Rat Park.
Find all things Carl at carlerikfisher.com
Check Carl out on Instagram and other socials @DrCarlErik
Order The Sobriety Deck
Listen to The Sobriety Deck Playlist by Hannah Gardner
Order Tawny’s book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze
Subscribe to Tawny's newsletter, "Beyond Liquid Courage"
Order Tawny’s new NA drink, (parentheses)
Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
