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We are back with part 2 of the lying episode.

We jump in to talking about what helped Jason stop lying:

#1 - Brute force effort to be honest as well as brute force effort to fight the addictive voice inside of him. (Jason said he would argue internally with the man he was fighting to become versus the old, addictive self pulling him back.)

#2 - He came to a place of determination that he could handle the fall out. Out of this shift came one of Jason's core recovery mantra's: I'd rather lose you than lie to you.

I chime in (and possibly take the convo in a different direction) and I talk about how when we lie - we are chipping away at our sense of selves. We become fragmented and disintegrated. Radical honesty is one of the ways we move toward integration and wholeness.

Jason's suggestions for men that are in the thick of recovery and need to stop lying:

We then talk about what she should expect - and I start by saying: we should expect him to NOT lie. You will hear me grappling with: should I have been a bit more gracious in the beginning? (Because I truly thought: what in the world is WRONG with him and please just STOP.)

We land the plane talking about polygraphs - which probably (really) needs to be a whole episode in and of itself.

We are so glad YOU are here, thanks for joining us for Season #7.