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Debra J. Saunders—Journalist and Fellow with Discovery Institute’s Chapman Center for Citizen Leadership—joins The Dawn Stensland Show to discuss her latest column for Creators Syndicate, “Woke Math Won’t Deliver Equity.” Debra explains that California is experimenting with an educational framework that would place less emphasis on rigorous mathematics—favoring instead the mixing of algebra, for example, with “pedagogical fads.” During the conversation Dawn and Debra joke that “every bad idea starts in California” but should parents across the country be nervous that solving equations will cease to be the focus of their child’s math class?