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Tina Nguyen joins Teddy Schleifer to explore what Ron DeSantis is doing to position himself as the front runner of a post-Trump MAGA world. They discuss DeSantis' attempts to placate his base, how Trump would handle "Don't Say Gay," and how the war in Ukraine has divided the G.O.P.

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