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Gabe and Joshy start the 2nd hour of the show discussing the Green Bay Packers defense, and whether there is a case for optimism with the lack of pass rush, and some of the players not living up to their hopes. Does the defense stink, or can you expect improvement? Brewers radio broadcaster Josh Maurer joins the show to talk Milwaukee Brewers ahead of the first game of the wild card series against the New York Mets. Will Brayden Narveson cost the Green Bay Packers game this season. Marti Wronski Milwaukee Brewers COO joins the show.