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Tell me if this kind of moment sounds familiar:

You’re at a bar and you’re meeting a new professional contact. 

You’ve learned a little bit about the person and you like what they do; you like their vibe. 

The conversation starts light. What do you think about _____?  How have you seen ______ play out? 

Then at a certain moment, something clicks, and the conversation takes a turn towards something deeper. 

A true connection has been formed through an unspoken trust that you can be honest, vulnerable even. 

And then you look at the time and realize that half-hour drink has turned into a two hour exploration of anything and everything. 

Welp, this week, that happened to me, and so I’ve had to coin a new term for this style of podcast. 

And in keeping with our coffee motif, we’re calling this a slow-drip episode. 

My guest this week is Garen Jemian, a Senior Leadership Consultant accredited by both the Government of Quebec  (CPMT) and the Government of Canada (Level III), a TedX Speaker, and the author of “Happy People Work Harder.” 

If I had to pick a central theme of our conversation, I think it would be navigating relationships.

And not just business relationships. 

Personal relationships. 

Communal relationships. 

Even the relationships we have with ourselves. 

So while this may be a longer than usual episode, I promise it’s more than worth it. 

And don’t worry, we’ll return to our normal format next week. 

Enjoy the show.
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