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Every once in a while you have a conversation with someone that you didn’t even know you needed to have. 

Usually we think of these as happening among close friends or family, but sometimes you get lucky and a complete stranger can blow your mind. 

That’s the kind of episode you can expect.

My guest this week was Nick McGowan, a Mindfulness & Self-Mastery coach and the Senior Sales Executive at MediaLab 3D Solutions.

He has done everything from selling cars, to media consulting, to property management. 

But he has also traveled the harder roads of life and he isn’t afraid to talk about them.

I thought I knew what I wanted to talk about going into this conversation, but it went off script in the best way possible. 

Nick and I discuss childhood trauma, the burdens of leadership, and how our awareness is often an overlooked or underutilized super-power. 

The conversation is raw and pushes the upper limits of PG-13, so maybe listen to this one with headphones on…

Either way, enjoy the show!