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What do you do when the church calls you the "black sheep"? How do you process trauma from the very place meant to be your safest haven? And how does grace—real, messy, unfiltered grace—transform both your pain and your purpose?

Duncan Robinson joins Cass for a raw, hilarious, and profoundly honest conversation about his new book Full Phoenix Rising—part memoir, part comedy, part biblical exploration of what it really means to follow Jesus when church has left deep wounds.

In this episode:

• Duncan's journey from being called a "black sheep" in youth group to becoming a Church of Christ pastor
• Why he left radio at 3:50 AM and never looked back
• The three types of prayer (including one most Protestants never practice)
• How to process church trauma while keeping the faith
• Why online church is like "porn for marriage" (Duncan's words, not ours!)
• The difference between being a grace receiver and a grace grower
• Reconciliation vs. honor/shame: What Jesus actually calls us to
• Late-onset charismatic gifts and why we're too scared to exercise them
• The woman at the well and what Jesus didn't do with her sin
• Why Australian banter is actually love (Americans, take note)

Fair warning: This conversation gets real. We're talking church hurt, denominational baggage, spiritual formation, and why the church is beautifully, frustratingly, necessarily messy.

If you've ever felt like you don't fit the Christian mold, if you're wrestling with deconstruction, or if you're just trying to figure out what it means to love Jesus AND his broken bride—this episode is for you.

Find Duncan's book Full Phoenix Rising at all major retailers (it hit #1 in Religious Comedy on Amazon!).

Connect with Duncan: duncanrobbinson.net

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Head to hertheology.com to find out more.