In this intimate, laughter-filled, deeply honest episode, Melissa “Mango” from BodyJoy sits down with erotic educator, practitioner, and long-time collaborator Casia Sobolewski for a conversation that travels through motherhood, boundaries, non-monogamy, erotic integrity, and the sacred art of pleasure.
Together, they unpack how years of exploration, sex-positive community, and somatic practice have shaped Casia’s work with individuals and couples. They explore the evolution from youthful erotic curiosity to raising a family within an open, devotional partnership, and how that lived experience informs the immersive work she and her husband Cosmo offer today.
This episode touches everything from:
• staying connected to desire through major life transitions
• open relating while parenting and building a sacred partnership
• the nuances of “taking” and “being taken” in heterosexual dynamics
• why many women need tension, not collapse, for erotic polarity
• somatic cues, boundaries, and the physiology of “floppiness”
• men’s fear of doing it wrong — and how that affects intimacy
• porn literacy and re-sensitizing the body to real-time pleasure
• desire, fantasy, the Anatomy of Desire model, and honest reflection
• pleasure as a spiritual doorway and the portal-like power of erotic connection
• havening, presence, and the small sensory practices that open the body
• the axial age, the erotic mother, and why women’s boundaries are holy
Casia also shares a behind-the-scenes look at her and Cosmo’s upcoming offering, “The Art of Touching Women: How Men Touch & Why It Matters,” plus stories from years of leading immersive erotic retreats with Melissa—where deep nervous system repair, erotic awakening, and life-changing relational shifts take place.
This is a rich, layered, beautifully human conversation about embodiment, consent, relational devotion, erotic intelligence, and the sacredness of tending to your own pleasure.
FIND CASIA
Website: honeyandwater.ca
Instagram: @casiasobolewski
Himeros Project: himerosproject.com
The Art of Touching Women Course: April 29 - July 1, 2026
WORK WITH MELISSA / BODYJOY
bodyjoy.org
