In this episode Dominic Bowen speaks with Simon Keslake, co-founder of Behavioural Risk Intelligence, about why organisational failure is so often driven by behaviour rather than systems or policies. They explore what behavioural risk really means, how it differs from traditional risk management, and why leadership signals, incentives, and team dynamics matter more than formal governance. Using real-world examples Simon explains how behavioural vulnerabilities can be identified and predicted before failure occurs. In addition, the episode also examines cultural differences, the limits of bureaucracy, and how organisations are increasingly shaping, not just responding to, geopolitical risk.
Simon Keslake is the Co-Founder and Behavioural Architect of Behavioural Risk Intelligence® (BRI). His focus is on redefining how organisations measure, understand, and manage the most complex human risks – those originating across leadership teams.
The International Risk Podcast brings you conversations with global experts, frontline practitioners, and senior decision-makers who are shaping how we understand and respond to international risk. From geopolitical volatility and organised crime, to cybersecurity threats and hybrid warfare, each episode explores the forces transforming our world and what smart leaders must do to navigate them. Whether you’re a board member, policymaker, or risk professional, The International Risk Podcast delivers actionable insights, sharp analysis, and real-world stories that matter.
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Dominic Bowen is the host of The International Risk Podcast and Europe’s leading expert on international risk and crisis management. As Head of Strategic Advisory and Partner at one of Europe’s leading risk management consulting firms, Dominic advises CEOs, boards, and senior executives across the continent on how to prepare for uncertainty and act with intent. He has spent decades working in war zones, advising multinational companies, and supporting Europe’s business leaders. Dominic is the go-to business advisor for leaders navigating risk, crisis, and strategy; trusted for his clarity, calmness under pressure, and ability to turn volatility into competitive advantage. Dominic equips today’s business leaders with the insight and confidence to lead through disruption and deliver sustained strategic advantage.
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