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In this episode, I have S. Florida police Commander, Joe Schaefer. He is also the author of the book "Police Fragility". Joe is trying to address a gap in police training and that is teaching the bad parts of where police came from. His view is we spend all our time teaching the good about police, starting with its history. However, neglecting to teach the bad history of policing is doing a disservice to the community and also the officers we send out. I don't want to give it all away, please take a listen. This is by far one of my favorite interviews simply because we were so much alike in our ideals. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.ย 

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