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In this episode, John and Miles explore how the original Star Wars trilogy became a kind of emotional survival guide—A New Hope teaching us how to believe again, The Empire Strikes Back showing us how to live with failure, and Return of the Jedi reminding us that sometimes the bravest act is letting go. Along the way, they pay tribute to Catherine O’Hara, Robert Duvall, and Frederick Wiseman, reflecting on the many ways artists help us endure the systems and chaos of life.