In this episode, we sit down with Scott Brills, co-founder of Pamoja Safaris, to learn about Tanzania and unpack what it actually takes to climb Kilimanjaro safely, see the Serengeti well, and travel in a way that respects people, wildlife, and your own limits.
Scott’s story starts far from Africa: a year abroad in Japan that flipped a shy, game-loving kid into a traveler, entrepreneur, and eventually a guide to some of the world’s most iconic landscapes. He shares how meeting his partner Josh on his first safari led to building a tight, local-first team, and how fair pay and training change the guest experience.
From Tarangire’s elephants and Ngorongoro Crater’s “lost world” feel to the Serengeti’s Great Migration, we break down the Northern Circuit and when to consider quieter southern parks like Ruaha. Expect practical planning tips: best months to go, realistic costs, when yellow fever proof matters, and why bottled water should be your default.
If Tanzania has lived in your head as a someday, this conversation turns it into a plan—with the right operator, the right pace, and the right expectations.
You can find Scott here:
Please download, like, subscribe, share a review, and follow us on your favorite podcasts app and connect with us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wherenextpodcast/
View all listening options: https://wherenextpodcast.buzzsprout.com/
Hosts
Carol Springer: https://www.instagram.com/carol.work.life
Kristen: https://www.instagram.com/team_wake/
If you can, please support the show or you can buy us a coffee.