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President and CEO of Crest insurance, Cody Richie, joins the show as co-host and special guest for the third time. Chris and Cody celebrate their 30-year friendship with a nod to their mentor and friend, Dave Sitton, who passed away and expectedly over 10 years ago and celebrates his birthday on January 17th. 
Cody shares his expert insights on insurance matters in California, shedding light on the key public policy failures that have led to catastrophe.


They cover the cabinet nomination hearings happening on Capitol Hill and the politics of Wyoming with the ascension of Harriet Hageman as a lone congresswoman replacing Liz Cheney. And they remember a time when politics was competitive, but it was never personal.  A wide-ranging back and forth that's a must listen.


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