This week, we share a For the Journey exclusive conversation between Bill Haley and Jerome Daley, co-founder of the Vining Center. They discuss the dynamics of what some have dubbed the “evangelical exodus,” and Jerome shares about his work developing more mature Christian leaders and helping people recover from various forms of church hurt. Ultimately, they discuss their respective journeys to the contemplative tradition and how those journeys have deepened their love for and intimacy with Jesus.
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