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Have you ever been underestimated? We've all been there, and it's not a great feeling. But, what if we told you that being underestimated can actually be a source of motivation? We open up about personal experiences of underestimation, how it has pushed us to work harder, and how it's played a role in shaping who we are today. We reflect on the value of challenges, the importance of letting our children experience failure, and how participation trophies might not be all that they're chalked up to be.

 Drawing parallels from the world of sports and legends like Kobe, Jordan, and LeBron, we discuss how intellect and skill can surpass physical limitations. Wrapping up the conversation, we delve into the power of mindset, the importance of perseverance, and the influence of role models in shaping our lives. So, join us for a hearty chat filled with laughs, stories, and life lessons.

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