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Change is constant and affects everyone from individuals to entire organisations. Acknowledging, understanding and managing change is crucial to thriving in an unpredictable, sometimes non-sensical world.

In the latest episode of The Chief Psychology Officer, we invite Spencer Bull to share his inspiring story of change and triumph in the face of unpredictable challenges. Dr Amanda Potter also provides insight into what change looks like from an organisational perspective and the neuroscience that drives our response to change.

Spencer and Amanda offer helpful tips to individuals coping with change and adversity, as well as leaders and organisations supporting colleagues through periods of transition.

Change is a given – it’s how we face up to it that determines how well we thrive!

In this episode, Angela Malik interviews Dr Amanda Potter and guest Spencer Bull.

The Chief Psychology Officer website is https://www.thecpo.co.uk/
To contact Amanda via LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/amandapotterzircon
To contact Amanda via email: TheCPO@zircon-mc.co.uk
To contact Spencer Bull, visit www.spencerbull.me

Timestamps 

Facing Up to Change 

• 00:00 – Introduction to Facing Up to Change 
• 00:45 – Introduction to guest: Spencer Bull 
• 00:52 – Career history 

Change is constant 

• 02:29 – What is change? 
• 03:46 – We have to face up to change the best we can 
• 04:51 – Think differently 
• 05:13 – COVID-19 vs. The Recession 
• 06:43 – Accept that change is the only way 

Spencer’s Story 

• 07:33 – MS Diagnosis 
• 08:07 – Recurring problems 
• 09:02 – What will I do in the future? 
• 09:41 – A mental challenge as well as a physical one. 
• 10:26 – Why Guilt? 
• 11:02 – Iceberg effect 
• 12:18 – Change is all around, and we all manage it differently 

Types of change 

• 12:40 – Types of change 
• 13:07 – VUCA 
• 14:44 – Stop staring at your screen! 
• 15:15 – We are creatures of routine 
• 16:29 – Unpredictability is the new normal 
• 17:41 – Fight or Flight? 
• 17:59 – Lack of perspective 

Accepting change 

• 18:23 – A man’s lawn is his pride 
• 19:02 – Families come together 
• 20:14 – Facing up to change 
• 21:56 – Owning your change 
• 22:47 – The Invictus Games 
• 23:58 – Competing in the Invictus Games 
• 24:19 – Where did your strength come from? 
• 24:46 – Military values 
• 25:24 – Live for the day, plan for tomorrow 
• 26:09 – Choosing how to respond 
• 27:05 – Academia vs. The lived experience 
• 28:21 – Asking for help is one of the hardest things to do 

Dealing with change ourselves 

• 29:03 – Perception 
• 30:02 – Sometimes its easier to talk to a mentor rather than family 
• 30:52 – Healthy Habits revisited 
• 31:29 – You have a plan? 
• 32:36 – Yes, I do h

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