In this episode, Lavender Krupp and Grant Martin interview retired OES principal Mike Wiley. After decades spent shaping schools, guiding teachers, and advocating for students, this former school principal steps behind the mic to share what really happens beyond the office door. Drawing from real-world experience in education leadership, this podcast explores the challenges, triumphs, and hard-earned lessons that come with leading a school community.
From discipline and decision-making to culture, character, and change, each episode offers honest conversations, practical wisdom, and stories that resonate far beyond the classroom. Whether you’re an educator, parent, leader, or simply curious about how schools—and people—work, this podcast delivers insight with heart, humor, and clarity.
This episode was edited by Julian D. and sound recorded by Ollie S.
Intro/Outro Music: “Motivated” by Alex MakesMusic
Date Recorded: January 16th, 2026
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