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Today I am joined by Kyla Roma, profitability and marketing strategist and founder of The Indie Business Intensive. Kyla helps business owners design intentional businesses and we discuss everything from what it looks like for her to meet her needs on a daily basis to paying attention to where she was hiding and feeling restless.

In this episode, Kyla shares her experience with anxiety and depression, and how it impacted her thinking about inclusivity and ableism within the self-help industry. We explore the many facets of self-care that is TRULY nourishing and unique to you, versus self-care geared towards making you “better” or more productive. Kyla disentangles productivity from self-worth in a way that is both liberating and profound. 

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