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In this episode of the Church Talk podcast, hosts Rob and Jason engage in a deep conversation with therapist Jason Van Ruler about overcoming past trauma, the importance of counseling, and the role of love in healing. They discuss the journey to rediscovering control in one's life, the significance of being open to change, and the necessity of connection to self, God, and others. Jason shares insights from his own experiences and emphasizes that life doesn't have to stop after a hard season, encouraging listeners to view their experiences as bookmarks rather than bookends.

Find the book here: Get Past Your Past 

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