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Feeling the holiday spirit yet? Today, we explore the joy and challenges life can serve up during the most wonderful time of the year. With the holiday season in full swing, we dive right into a candid discussion about dealing with grief and loss, especially during the holidays. We uncover wisdom from a surprisingly poignant scene in the movie Love Actually and use it to frame our own challenging times as inevitable 'shit times' that help us endure and grow.

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