Does educating people about mental illness actually reduce stigma? According to Dr. Patrick Corrigan, one of the world’s leading researchers on stigma, the answer is no. In fact, teaching that depression is a “brain disease” may unintentionally make stigma worse.
So what does work? Sharing real stories of lived experience—stories that include the struggle and the recovery.
In this powerful conversation, Dr. Corrigan explains why “coming out” about depression and mental illness is an act of authenticity, not weakness. He shares his own experience living with depression and bipolar disorder, and why stories of recovery are essential for changing public perception.
Framing stigma as a social justice issue, Dr. Corrigan calls on people with lived experience to lead the way—and shows how every personal story has the power to reduce shame, increase hope, and build connection.
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Timestamps
00:10 Introduction from Bridget and Terry
00:46 Bridget reflects on honesty after losing a friend to cancer
01:47 Meet Dr. Patrick Corrigan, stigma researcher and psychologist
02:26 Why education doesn’t reduce stigma—and can make it worse
02:55 The effectiveness of face-to-face storytelling
03:01 “On the way down” and “on the way up” stories of mental illness and recovery
03:26 Dr. Corrigan shares his own lived experience
05:03 Why authenticity matters more than pity
05:17 How sharing stories reduces shame and stigma
06:16 Lessons from LGBTQ+ communities on stigma reduction
06:25 Risks and rewards of “coming out” about mental illness
07:22 Why recovery stories highlight resilience and empowerment
08:06 Why stigma is a social justice issue
08:50 Why people with lived experience must lead the change
09:21 Practical advice for safely sharing your story or being an ally
10:27 Reflections on the power of openness in reducing shame
11:52 Closing thoughts: as shame goes down, hope goes up
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