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⚠️ NOTE: Haley is not on this episode — she’s out galavanting — but Mary Lou brings in her MAGA friend Jules as a special guest, making for one of the most intense and revealing conversations we’ve had yet.

This week on The Necessary Conversation, we break down a terrifying escalation of federal power, shocking allegations tied to the Epstein network, and Trump openly flirting with the end of elections and international war — all while ICE violence spirals out of control inside the United States.

🚨 ICE Violence & the Insurrection Act

As peaceful protests erupt in Minnesota over ICE abuses, Trump threatens to invoke the Insurrection Act, potentially allowing the U.S. military to be used against American civilians.

This week alone:

• ICE shot a Venezuelan man in the leg
• Tear-gassed a 6-month-old baby, causing the child to stop breathing
• Blinded a U.S. citizen by shooting him in the eye at point-blank range
• Arrested hundreds of U.S. citizens without cause
• A 55-year-old Cuban immigrant, Geraldo Lunas Campos, was choked to death in ICE custody, ruled a homicide by the medical examiner

We also reveal:

• ICE training has been slashed from 6 months to 6 weeks
• Hiring standards have collapsed
• An ICE officer recently pleaded guilty to raping a detainee
• 73.6% of ICE detainees have no criminal record
• DHS is using Nazi-adjacent slogans and white-nationalist imagery in recruitment content

Despite a federal judge ordering ICE to stop arresting protesters and using force, the order is being ignored, and Trump is now preparing to deploy 1,500 U.S. Army troops into Minneapolis.

🔥 Epstein Network Allegations: Sascha Riley Audio

Viral, unverified audio released this week contains explosive allegations from Iraq War veteran Sascha Riley, who claims:

• Trump, Lindsey Graham, Jim Jordan, and Clarence Thomas participated in child trafficking
• Children were raped, tortured, and murdered within the Epstein network
• Trump was physically injured during abuse

Meanwhile, the DOJ is now over a month past the deadline to release the Epstein files — and late Friday filed a motion to block Congress from enforcing release.

We ask:

• Why is the DOJ protecting the Epstein files?
• What happens if these allegations are ignored?
• Who benefits from silence?

💰 Trump’s Offshore Oil Money

Trump sold $500 million worth of seized Venezuelan oil — and instead of placing the money in the U.S. Treasury, parked it in a Qatari bank account.

Yes, the same Qatar that just gave him a $400 million jet.

Why offshore?
 Who controls the money?
 Where is the oversight?

🗳️ “We Shouldn’t Even Have an Election”

In a Reuters interview, Trump said:

“When you think of it, we shouldn’t even have an election.”

The White House says he was “joking.”

We ask the obvious question:
 What’s the joke?

❄️ Greenland: Tariffs, Threats & NATO Fallout

Trump escalates his Greenland obsession by:

• Threatening 10–25% tariffs on NATO allies
• Pushing for the “complete and total purchase” of Greenland
• Risking a fracture of NATO

Only 4% of Americans support this plan — yet Trump presses on.

🤖 GROK Goes to War

Pete Hegseth announces Elon Musk’s AI Grok will be integrated into classified Pentagon systems, despite Grok’s history of:

• Deepfake sexual images

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