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In Episode 210 of Facts vs Feelings, Carson Group’s Ryan Detrick, Chief Market Strategist, and Sonu Varghese, Chief Macro Strategist, welcome back Libby Cantrill, Head of Public Policy at PIMCO, for her fifth appearance on the show. With the midterm elections about two weeks away, Libby explains why the data is flashing signs of a potential blue wave: President Trump’s net approval is roughly 20 points underwater, the generic ballot sits near Democrats +9, and an enthusiasm gap favors Democrats. The group discusses why flipping the House is a low bar, why the Senate remains a difficult map for Democrats, and why Texas and even Kansas are suddenly in play, with Sonu noting that prediction markets and models now put Democratic Senate odds at roughly 63% to 70%.

From there, Ryan, Sonu, and Libby dig into the policy and market implications. Libby makes the case that voter backlash against AI data centers, with about 70% of voters disapproving, will not fade after Election Day and could bring moratoriums, tougher permitting, and higher costs for the AI infrastructure build-out. They discuss why yields are rising amid the AI capex boom, how a Democratic Congress could mean more spending on the Affordable Care Act subsidies, Medicaid, and defense, and why bond markets may sell off on higher deficits. Libby also explains why risk markets tend to prefer a split Congress, with Ryan correcting the historical S&P 500 returns by party control.

The episode wraps with a look at the Fed under Chair Warsh and its communication gap, the limits of presidential power over spending and equity stakes in companies, the odds of nationalizing AI firms, the coming Social Security reckoning and the debate over taxing capital versus labor, and early thoughts on who may run in 2028.

[Key Takeaways]

• Wave election indicators are flashing blue. Trump’s net approval is about 20 points underwater, the generic ballot is near Democrats +9, and there is an enthusiasm gap. Flipping the House is a low bar with Republicans holding just a three-seat majority, and Sonu notes Democratic Senate odds of roughly 63% to 70% across Kalshi, Nate Silver, and Split Ticket.
• The Senate map is still tough for Democrats. They need to defend seats in Michigan, Georgia, and New Hampshire while winning four additional seats in places like Ohio, Iowa, North Carolina, Maine, Alaska, and Texas. Libby says candidate quality is helping, and that this is more about Republican turnout falling than voters switching parties.
• Data center backlash is bipartisan and may last. Polling shows about 70% of voters disapprove of data centers, versus roughly even sentiment in September 2025. Libby expects more friction from state moratoriums, permitting, rolled-back incentives, and higher costs in 2027 and beyond.
• Markets may prefer gridlock. Libby expects risk assets to respond better to a split Congress than a Democratic sweep, and Ryan notes the S&P 500 has averaged 13.7% annualized with a Republican president and split Congress, versus only 4.9% with a Democratic Congress, a figure skewed by 2008.
• Deficits could rise under either outcome. Libby sees a path where Democrats back more defense and Iran-related spending in exchange for ACA subsidies and reversing Medicaid cuts, which could push bond yields higher.
• A Democratic Senate would likely block controversial Fed nominees, easing worries about Fed independence. Libby also reminds listeners that Chair Warsh is just one vote of 12 on the FOMC.

Jump to:

0:00 - Cold Open And Election Timing

3:10 - Libby Cantrill Joins The Show

6:30 - Data Pointing To A Wave

12:20 - The Senate Map And Candidate Fit

21:05 - How Markets React To Gridlock

23:35 - Voter Revolt Against Data Centers

30:20 - AI Capex And Higher Bond Yields

35:35 - Deficits Defense Spending And Health Care

41:50 - The Fed Under Chair Warsh

48:55 - Limits Of Presidential Power

53:30 - Social Security And Capital Tax Politics

55:25 - Who Runs Next And Party Risks

58:35 - Final Thoughts And Farewell

59:20 - Disclosures

Connect with Ryan:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryandetrick/

• X: https://x.com/RyanDetrick

Connect with Sonu:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sonu-varghese-phd/

• X: https://x.com/sonusvarghese?lang=en

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