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Welcome to Take 10! A brand new segment for the 10th season of the 10ofThose podcast, where we take on one topic in just 10 minutes. First up: forgiveness.

Tim Keller called forgiveness the hardest thing Christians are asked to do. In this episode, Jonathan and Laurie get honest about why that's the case; the pride that makes us want others to pay, the instinct to fake peace rather than do the harder work of genuine forgiveness, and the tricky question of how to forgive someone who isn't sorry. They point to Christ's example on the cross, the freeing truth that we forgive because we've first been forgiven, and a few short books worth picking up if you're wrestling with a grudge you can't quite let go of.

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