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In this episode of Trade Traction, Dennis sits down with Jason, incoming PCCC National President, to talk about leadership, contractor relationships, trade shows, and what it really takes to grow in the plumbing, heating, and cooling industry.

If you’re a plumbing, HVAC, or mechanical contractor tired of working hard without seeing real profit, this conversation is packed with practical insight. Jason shares how getting involved in industry associations opened unexpected doors, built lifelong relationships, and created opportunities that directly impacted business growth.

You’ll hear why trade shows matter more than most contractors realize, how networking can solve real business problems, why strong contractor relationships outperform competition, and how today’s leaders are preparing for major shifts like AI, staffing challenges, and the next generation of ownership.

⏱ Chapters:
0:00 Introduction to Jason & Trade Traction
1:18 Jason’s Business in the Trades
3:02 Becoming APCC National President
5:15 How Contractor Networking Opens Doors
8:04 Why Trade Shows Matter for Contractors
11:10 Getting the Most Out of Industry Events
14:32 Relationships That Save Your Business
18:05 Why Contractors Should Stop Competing
21:14 AI and Technology in Plumbing & HVAC
24:46 Why Owners Need to Leave the Business Sometimes
27:35 Losing Key Employees and Rebuilding Teams
31:12 Leadership Lessons for the Next Generation
34:05 Final Thoughts on Growth in the Trades

Trade Traction helps plumbing, heating, and cooling contractors stop working for free, improve profitability, and build the business they once dreamed of.

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