Ever wondered what it takes to be great in God's kingdom? On our recent podcast, we sit down with Pastor Perfetto and his wife, Lisa Esquibel, who share their inspiring journey, their ministry, and the lessons they've gleaned from spiritual parents, Mark and Trina Hankins, about claiming greatness in God's kingdom. We discuss the virtues of servitude and humility, drawing inspiration from Jesus’s teachings, and contrasting it with worldly pursuits of success.
