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If you’ve spent any time around the Columbus food scene, you probably heard of BJ Lieberman.

He’s the chef behind Chapman’s, Metsi's, Ginger Rabbit, and one of the most thoughtful people I’ve met when it comes to food, creativity, and building restaurants that people genuinely love.

In this episode, BJ and I talk about his path into the restaurant world, what it’s really like running restaurants in Columbus right now, and how becoming a dad has shifted the way he thinks about work and life.

We also get into the energy of the Columbus food scene, creativity in the kitchen, and the balance between building something ambitious and building a life you actually want to live.

It’s a fun, honest conversation about restaurants, passion, and figuring things out as you go.