On today's episode, Abish greets "babies and adults" alike with her signature chaotic energy, dragging her co-hosts into a bizarrely heated debate about ginger genetics and hair color. This meandering opener evolves into a showcase of the drink of the week, “Cursed Waters,” a cocktail that starts bright and cheerful but turns ominously dark when stirred—a perfect metaphor for this week’s topic. Between spilled drinks, toddler chaos, and lamenting the moral bankruptcy of reality TV, the crew finds their rhythm and gears up to tackle Satan, his dominion over the waters, and more.
Scriptures: [00:23:11]
Moroni dives into Doctrine and Covenants 61–62, unpacking Joseph Smith’s dramatic revelation that “the waters are cursed, but the land is blessed.” The team speculates that Joseph might have just hated canoeing or feared cholera, turning this into a divine proclamation. They roast verbose apologetics, contrasting them with beloved yet inconsistent narratives like Harry Potter.
The conversation takes a sharp turn when the hosts reflect on divine intervention—or lack thereof—in personal trials, particularly Abish’s experience navigating the Bishlet's illness last Christmas. They critique religious double standards that attribute good fortune to God while framing hardships as tests or punishments. The segment concludes with a poignant message: life isn’t meant to be endured for celestial approval; it’s meant to be fully lived, as beautifully illustrated by the movie About Time.
Church Teachings: [00:57:03]
aaaAAAaaa takes us down the rabbit hole of Joseph Smith’s infamous “Satan controls the waters” revelation, blending biting humor with historical analysis. Did Joseph really receive divine insight, or was he just over canoeing? The team dives into Ezra Booth’s critiques and riffs on Joseph’s alleged aversion to physical challenges. They hilariously reimagine church history, drawing parallels between Satan’s watery dominion and Joseph’s habit of pivoting revelations to fit his convenience.
History: [01:15:58]
Abigail takes the lead with a snarky mashup of Satan and Santa, referencing pop culture gems like Dear Santa starring Jack Black. The segment explores Satan’s evolution from a medieval nuisance to the fiery anti-hero of modern media, with detours into etymology (Lucifer means "light-bringer," not "goat-dude") and art history’s questionable attempts at demonizing the devil.
The discussion gets hilariously academic, tracing Satan’s attributes—like the pitchfork—from Greek gods to Dante’s chin-winged monstrosity. Abigail critiques how modern religion weaponizes Satan as a scapegoat while elevating him as a rebellious anti-hero. The group wraps up with a wild ride through mythology, literary tropes, and opera, proving that Satan’s PR team has been working overtime for centuries.
The episode wraps up with an empowering reminder: life is for living, not just surviving. The hosts riff on the freedom that comes with letting go of celestial scorekeeping, urging listeners to treasure each moment. With the sincerity of someone handing you tissues during About Time, they leave us laughing, crying, and questioning everything—just how they like it.
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