It was such an honor and joy to interview Eli Ramer, an important queer spiritual elder. In this interview you'll get to hear about his fascinating story connecting with spirit and recalling past lives at a very young age. Eli writes under the name Andrew Ramer and is the author of five books including Two Flutes Playing, first published in 1991, which been called “an underground gay classic." More recently he wrote a companion volume, Two Hearts Dancing, published in 2021. I first discovered his work in the book Gay Soul, where he was interviewed by Mark Thompson along with fifteen other elders in the gay spirituality movement. We chat about past lives and how they come into play with our current lives; the energy of queer people and the spiritual roles we've historically played in communities; and practices for managing and/or cultivating spiritual gifts. Eli also shares what he predicts will be the future role of LGBTQ folks when society is confronted by the dire impacts of climate change.