In this powerful and timely conversation, R.W. Moody sits down with Rev. Eric and Twila Butler to talk honestly about unity, discipleship, and the future of the Church of God movement. Recorded during Black History Month, the discussion centers on the importance of cross-cultural relationships, shared leadership, and the responsibility believers have to move beyond divisions toward genuine connection.
Eric and Twila reflect on legacy, spiritual heritage, and the idea that we stand on the shoulders of those who came before us—calling leaders and churches to lead with humility, availability, and intentional relationship-building. They challenge the movement to move past the “A, B, and C” divisions and toward a shared vision of “all of the above,” rooted in reconciliation and a heart for God’s kingdom.
This episode is a heartfelt call to action for leaders and congregations alike: to show up, make space at the table, and pursue unity that reflects the multicultural kingdom of God.
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