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Host Tom Butler opens with a look at what's pushing him to get out on the bike more lately, including a recent lab report that didn't go the way he wanted. It's the kind of moment that can either derail a fitness journey or fuel it, and Tom is honest about how he's choosing to use it.

Then Tom welcomes Julie Donnelly, author of The Pain Free Athlete and a practitioner who has spent her career helping people get free of the pain that quietly derails so many active lives. Julie's approach is built on a powerful idea. She believes people can be taught to treat themselves, and in this conversation she shares what that looks like in practice. It's a great discussion for anyone who wants to keep cycling, and keep moving, for the long haul.

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NOTE: I share information about my journey. From time to time that means sharing what I do to stay healthy.  None of what I share is meant to be medical advice. Always consult with your physician or other health professionals before making changes. 

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Show music is "Come On Out" by Dan Lebowitz.  Find him here : lebomusic.com