In this first bonus episode of That Workplace Experience Podcast, host Dan Moscrop is joined by Simon Jordan and Gerry Hopkinson of We Make Progress — a design anthropology and experience strategy studio working across cities, venues and mixed-use developments.
Together, they explore a provocative idea:
What if we’ve been designing workplaces the wrong way around?
From fluid identity and hybrid work to the limits of “human-centric design,” this conversation challenges the assumption that efficiency equals growth.
They unpack:
This episode steps back from a single project to examine the cultural forces reshaping work, cities and experience today.
Watch the episode and download the Workbook for a deeper dive into the episode, and We Make Progress.
Video production and camera: Calum Lindsay
Camera: Miguel Santa Clara
Illustration: Phoebe Gitsham
